05-26-2012 at 8:50 PM

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05-26-2012 at 8:41 PM

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04-26-2012 at 9:46 AM

Hmmm. What that's called is sheltering. It's like.. when a little kid cries about being afraid of the dark, you light up his room and put nightlights in so he doesn't get scared.<br /> This doesn't say "it's just a silly fear", this shows him that "hey, my fear is legitimate enough for my mom to wake up and light up my room".<br /> Liam will not become alright with other dogs if he is kept away from them. A border between two dogs (wall, fence, cage bars, etc) intensifies the aggression and anger towards them. They need to be able to see each other and smell each other.<br /> When a dog is on the other side of the fence and can't see Liam.. he may be dog friendly, who knows, but Liam charges at him aggressively and barks. Liam can't see the other dog and can't tell if the dog is acting aggressively - the other dog may just be barking to say hey or that he wants to play. By hiding him from other dogs, you're encouraging the behaviour.<br /> <br /> Pay very close attention to Liam when he sees another dog. Very small, tiiinnyy changes in a dog can show you if he will show aggression. The angle he's holding his ears, the height his head is at, what height his tail is at, what position, what angle, the way his eyes are looking, how much white is showing in his eyes, if his hair is up, how he's standing, what angle he's standing at, is his mouth moving, how is he walking, are his legs stiff when he walks? etc etc.<br /> That's when he needs to be corrected. By the time the dog is snarling and lunging, it's too late for corrections to be effective, he's too concentrated on attacking the other dog.<br /> <br /> Watch verrryy closely at how the dogs look before an attack: <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLrgtR9U6Z8 rel=nofollow>[LINK]</a><br /> The following is an extremely HA dog. He eventually gives up cause he realizes his snapping aint doing nothing with the muzzle on.<br /> <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZTkz8eD2I&feature=related rel=nofollow>[LINK]</a><br /> Also, they were using a remote dog collar. A remote dog collar is like an electric dog collar but it is remote control and has the ability to choose between shock and vibration.

04-26-2012 at 9:30 AM

I stated preventative measures in chat. For here(and there if they get the puppy) he is either crated or outside if my bedroom door is opened to insure he does not get out or the dog in. He gets backyard they get front/side yard, fence seperating them. Sis has a privacy fence.<br /> <br /> As i said before I am moving, that fixes roomie problem.<br /> <br /> Dunno i only saw the pom for a few seconds when brother-in-laws mom brought her out for me to see.<br /> <br /> Before it was when he'd tense and sometimes if tuarwen was with me and i was trying not to trip over her(Freakin short dog) when he lunged. I'd simply tell him 'Liam, No, Leave it' and when he looked at me 'heel' and move off quicker then before.

04-26-2012 at 9:22 AM

Also, you state that you are taking "preventive measures". What are these preventive measures?

04-26-2012 at 9:11 AM

<b>Only thing i've seen him do is kick the fence when Liam barks at him for being out front. He has chased Liam before when Liams barking just got worse after he kicked it, and when he was 6 months he started kicking the fence, for a month he'd just yell for Liam to shut up. Now he has all his friends do it too.</b><br /> Your dog will never get better if your roomie continues to do this. Yelling at a dog that is barking only encourages the behaviour, because the dog believes that the person is talking to them. Liam probably sees your roomie as a challenge.<br /> <br /> <b>I'm moving so cant do that right away, unless we used the pomeranian >></b><br /> Not unless you have muzzles, and if it's a snappy dog you're gonna have problems.<br /> How is the Pom? Is it a calm dog?<br /> <br /> What exactly do you do when Liam shows aggression? When do you stop him/correct him? (at what stage)<br /> By "stages" I mean.. posturing, hackles raised, growling, snarling, snapping, lunging, full-out biting.

04-26-2012 at 8:58 AM

<b>What exactly has your roomie done to him that would cause him to fear him?</b><br /> Only thing i've seen him do is kick the fence when Liam barks at him for being out front. He has chased Liam before when Liams barking just got worse after he kicked it, and when he was 6 months he started kicking the fence, for a month he'd just yell for Liam to shut up. Now he has all his friends do it too.<br /> <br /> <b>There is no possible hope of rehabilitating the dog if you keep him away from other dogs. Keeping him away from other dogs or yanking him away when you see a dog shows him that other dogs = bad and other dogs should be afraid. Get another dog, a good, non-aggressive dog (like a friends dog), muzzle them both and allow them to greet each other. Don't force an interaction, however.</b><br /> <br /> I'm moving so cant do that right away, unless we used the pomeranian >><br /> <br /> The abuse to the dog was years ago. I took the dog from her and told her if i ever saw her raise her hand to a dog again i'd call the cops.

04-26-2012 at 8:43 AM

<b>Thats how long I've lived with roomie.</b><br /> ..What exactly has your roomie done to him that would cause him to fear him? Depending on when your roomie first started traumatizing him, he may never get out of his fear of men, ever. There is a period in a young dog where he is extremely susceptible to fears and being scarred by people/things.<br /> Put a muzzle on him (one where there's no chance of him biting) like a cage muzzle and slowly allow him to interact with males. The males can't flinch at all or it will send the progress backwards. Once he realizes that the males won't back down adn won't hurt him, he'll stand around growling with his hair up, scared. He's a scared-aggressive dog, it sounds like. He needs to realize that males = good and males won't hurt him.<br /> You also need to stop your roomie from doing whatever he does that hurts or scares your dog. Your dog is a walking liability right now, to say the least. <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>I've never taken the chance to let him close enough to another dog.</b><br /> There is no possible hope of rehabilitating the dog if you keep him away from other dogs. Keeping him away from other dogs or yanking him away when you see a dog shows him that other dogs = bad and other dogs should be afraid. Get another dog, a good, non-aggressive dog (like a friends dog), muzzle them both and allow them to greet each other. Don't force an interaction, however.<br /> Try slowly introducing him by having the dog face the other direction so he can sniff his butt. Don't force them to interact face-to-face.<br /> Again, it's extremely important that you muzzle both dogs with muzzles where the dog CANNOT BITE THE OTHER DOG. Cloth ones won't work. Get sturdy cage/wire/basket muzzles.<br /> If Liam snaps, the other dog may snap back and you will have the other dog biting Liam with Liam hopeless in defending himself. Both need to be muzzled so there's no chance of a fight.<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Advice wasnt bout that xD I'm iffy on my sister having a dog because she abused her previous dog(the staffie)</b><br /> What do you mean? This is what you said:<br /> <i>"so the dog stays in his moms room"</i><br /> <i>if my sister and her husband do get a puppy?</i> <br /> <i>Mother-in-law owns a pomeranian, they want a puppy dunno what breed.</i><br /> <br /> If you have seen your sister abusing dogs, you should call the police.

04-26-2012 at 7:55 AM

<b>How long has this been for? Have you ever tried to train or coax him out of it? Do you coddle him when he cowers because of men?</b><br /> Since he was 4-5 months, hes 1 now. Thats how long I've lived with roomie. Only man hes met outside roomie and his friends is my brother in law, and random strangers on walks. He doesnt react to em on walks. He isnt afraid of them, when he saw my brother-in-law if i'd not had his leash shortened he would have probably bit cause he lunged for him with a vicious snarl. Yet hes perfectly fine with the workers at pet supermarket. Then again my brother in law walked behind me when my back was turned and i was half in Liams crate cleaning out barf.<br /> <br /> <b>Not if he's severely dog aggressive, it takes a long time to get a dog not to behave that way.</b><br /> I've never taken the chance to let him close enough to another dog. He has gotten better, has quit reacting to dogs on walks. Before he would lunge to the end of the leash and once snapped the choke chain he had on to get after a pomernian..it was behind a fence.<br /> <br /> <b>I wouldn't suggest they get any dog. A dog living it's life in one room, except to go outside is not a life. It's like living in a jail cell to be quite honest.</b><br /> Advice wasnt bout that xD I'm iffy on my sister having a dog because she abused her previous dog(the staffie)

04-26-2012 at 7:30 AM

<b>Alright so i finally got sick of my roomies crap about how I should kill Liam because hes 'stupid' and 'aggressive' when the human aggression is only towards men</b><br /> How long has this been for? Have you ever tried to train or coax him out of it? Do you coddle him when he cowers because of men?<br /> <br /> <b>Is it possible to teach Liam not to attack those two dogs if my sister and her husband do get a puppy?</b><br /> Not if he's severely dog aggressive, it takes a long time to get a dog not to behave that way. <br /> <br /> <b>Mother-in-law owns a pomeranian, they want a puppy dunno what breed. Advice?</b><br /> I wouldn't suggest they get any dog. A dog living it's life in one room, except to go outside is not a life. It's like living in a jail cell to be quite honest.<br /> <br /> <b>ALso no Liam is not neutered but where sister lives there are more job opportunities and I plan on getting him his yearly shots and neutered asap..</b><br /> If the other dog is a male, you're gonna have problems.

04-26-2012 at 5:33 AM

3 years old that is for tuarwen, not months

04-26-2012 at 5:31 AM

Hehe Liam isn't my only dog. Tuarwen is his 'sister' hes been with her since he was 2 months old and she was 3, we've always had dogs in groups of 2-3. Tuarwen was raised with three other dogs, ect.Tuarwen 'speaks' dog well and has gone to parks and played with other dogs.<br /> <br /> Liam because of roomie throwing a fit and fighting with me i never took him in the car anywhere<br /> <br /> As for dogs for sister and her husband I think he wants a big dog xD Like a rottie or doberman.

04-26-2012 at 5:24 AM

First of all, your friend is mean :&lt; you don't take someone's life if one talks too loudly, you <i>teach</i> them how to talk softly.<br /> <br /> I'm assuming Liam was raised alone in the house? without other dogs? I suggest taking Liam to training courses where he can interact with more dogs, but i'm not an expert on this so yea ^^; not much help from here.<br /> <br /> But I did notice a small trend that dogs raised alone without other doggy companions tend to 'forget' that they're dogs. xD my little mini schnauzer was raised alone and she hates other dogs and ESPECIALLY schnauzers for strange reasons. She barks a lot at passing people and usually they just shy away from her. But if one is brave enough to approach her while she's barking will only find out that she'll clam-up and start rubbing all over you passionately. (but only to humans OTL)<br /> <br /> So yea. I think doggies should be brought up with others, and be taught how to 'act' appropriately around others. Be strict when he does something wrong, and reward when he does it right.<br /> <br /> Dog suggestion for your sister? :B<br /> <br /> <b>miniature schnauzer</b> <br /> <br /> andnoI'mtotallynotbiased<br /> <br /> Well Mini-schnauzers are actually incredibly smart dogs, they're incredibly fast and adorable too :3 if they manage to pick a sweet one, they don't bark a lot, and well their fur is at a manageable rate. <br /> <br /> Other dogs would be, Papillons, Pembroke Welsh Corgis (lol Ala dogs much?), cocker spaniels, pug? (not my favorite type but they can be cute), yorkshire terriors, beagles, and chihuahuas C:<br /> <br /> yea c: good luck!