11-3-2012 at 8:44 AM

Welll, to be honest... :#<br /> <br /> <i>"Animals killed for fur die through electrocution"</i><br /> Not always. They can be gassed humanely, injected with the same stuff that puts animals to sleep, shot, or sometimes they're simply killed by the trap (depending on the type of trap and size of animal. There are many traps (conibear traps, for example) that are designed to kill the animal like a big mouse-trap. They are extremely strong and can break your forearm if you stick it in there, and the large ones can kill wolverines, lynxes, and even wolves. Trappers claim that snares will kill an animal trapped in about 30 seconds or less, so it is NOT what PeTA makes it out to be.<br /> This is an example of a conibear trap being set and going off (no worries, NO animals are in the video). The traps are made specifically to kill the animal as quickly as possible.<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRQxdvT0J8I">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRQxdvT0J8I</a><br /> <br /> <i>"boiling and rending alive of chickens"</i><br /> I'm sorry, but this doesn't happen. It would make no sense to cause torment to a living animal that you intend to sell for meat, an animal being in pain will thrash out and bruise the meat; making it useless. Chickens are usually killed through electrocution, slitting of the throat, or neck-breaking. The animal used for meat must be bled out for the meat to be sold, and this can be achieved through killing and hanging the animal up to drip out, but that's not practical in the fast-paced slaughterhouse, so the animal must be unconscious so the heart is still beating but the animal can't feel any pain, it's quick, it's painless, and it's easy.<br /> The method of slaughtering cattle and pigs is not as they show you in PeTA either. For cattle, it involves a captive bolt stun-gun (an air-powered gun that shoots a metal piston in and out to destroy the cerebrum) and takes half a second, the animal can then feel no pain. In fact, they also sell mini hand-held versions of the stun-gun for rabbit slaughter, but rabbits are commonly killed through neck-breaking. Here is an example of what a captive-bolt stun-gun looks like (no animals in picture): <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/TED_Stunner_Captive_Bolt_Technology.jpg">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/TED_Stunner_Captive_Bolt_Technology.jpg</a><br /> For pigs, it can sometimes involve a stun-gun, but pigs are usually done with electric tongs so the same result is achieved in the end.<br /> <br /> The important thing to remember about slaughterhouses and furs is that alive animals = damage to fur or meat, plain and simple. Animals are not skinned alive for fur (blood is very hard if not IMPOSSIBLE to get out of the pelt and nobody wants to buy a pelt with blood in it) and animals are not boiled alive for meat. When you purchase a raw chicken in the store, it's not boiled.<br /> The de-feathering and de-hairing processes are very similar in chickens and animals like pigs. It's basically just a scalding tank that holds the (dead) animal and burns all of the dirt and feathers/fur off with extremely hot water, though there are methods of feathering that involve some sort of tub with rubber prongs that pull the feathers out.<br /> <br /> Again, it would not make sense for an animal to still be alive while the de-feathering/hairing process is taking place, as it would simply bruise the meat and ruin the quality. Another reason why if you are fishing and wish to keep the fish to eat, to not let it flap about on the ground; bruised meat tastes bad.<br /> <br /> It's important to know where your meat comes from, but it's even more important to know the real facts about where it comes from and not propaganda pushed by hypocrites at PeTA :(<br /> <br />

10-28-2012 at 8:13 PM

The chickens killed for food suffer far more horrific circumstances than the animals killed for fur. Animals killed for fur die through electrocution which is generally quicker and less painful than the boiling and rending alive of chickens, so I actually believe it is LESS cruel to wear a fur coat than to eat chicken.<br />

10-19-2012 at 7:26 PM

I don't want to turn this into a PeTA debate, but PeTA is not a credible source on anti-fur info and activism, they have staged horrible anti-fur videos involving real, live animals (meaning, they paid to have people kill animals so they could record it "secretly"). Whatever PeTA shows you about fur is generally false. Animals sitting, rotting in cages, soaking in their own blood and waste? Who would want to buy a pelt like that? Who would want to wear a coat with blood stain in the pelts?<br /> <br /> I am pro-fur, but I won't wear a fur coat or fur clothing myself.