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Outdoor cats
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I thought this might be an interesting one for Alacrity, as I assume most of us are animal lovers. What do you guys think about cats being allowed to roam free outside?

For me, personally, I am very much against it. I believe that cat owners should install cat runs if they wish to let their cats outside.

I am a wildlife carer and here in Australia cats are a serious threat to our natives. Almost every bird I've had come in due to cat attack has died shortly thereafter, and that's not even touching on those that die prolonged and painful deaths in the bush. All cats hunt, it is natural for them to do so. People who don't believe their cats are hunting are fooling themselves.

Furthermore, it is much safer for a cat to be kept indoors or in an enclosed outdoor area like a cat run. How many cats are run over by cars, abused by humans or attacked by other cats and dogs every year? How many unwanted litters of kittens are born to roaming cats?

Note that I do not hate cats. They are just doing what comes naturally to them. I blame the owners as it is their responsibility to manage their animals. (Also, I am not limiting this to just cats. I believe dogs should be kept confined too. However most dogs are kept in secure backyards and thus present no problem.)

Thoughts?

04-5-2011 at 7:55 AM
A sofa and a tree are two entirely different things. Please don't bring up something irrelevant. You're not taking in the point of my post. <br />

04-5-2011 at 7:51 AM
This is perhaps one of the most widely known and dangerous of all myths regarding cats, because unfortunately many children have tried to prove that it is true.<br /> <br /> -lol sorry but i just picture a bunch of kids in a feld throwing cats arround, probly not funny to you guys but i think it is.<br /> <br /> and ive heard of cats falling off of a sofa and breaking there legs, next your goina tell me cats shouldnt be on the sofa at all, its not safe...<br /> <br /> im still goina let my cat out, sorry if it upsets you but i am.

04-5-2011 at 6:43 AM
If they won't fall off a tree because they're agile, than they won't pull over a dresser.<br /> <br /> <br /> There are far to many things outside that endanger your cat's life. <br /> <br /> <br /> Here you go, don't take it from me.<br /> <br /> http://www.petwave.com/Dogs/Basics/Care/General/Myth.aspx<br /> <br /> "#2 Cats always land on their feet<br /> <br /> The Myth: Cats always land on their feet when falling from heights.<br /> <br /> The Origin: In the feline world, the most popular cliche is, "Cats always land on their feet." In reality, although cats do instinctively try to fall feet first, they commonly break bones or suffer other injury when falling from heights.<br /> <br /> The Truth: This is perhaps one of the most widely known and dangerous of all myths regarding cats, because unfortunately many children have tried to prove that it is true. It is not. Cats are indeed very athletic and agile animals, and they do have a unique instinctive ability to twist themselves around in mid-air to correct their position during a fall. However, if a cat is surprised, sick, disoriented or injured, it is unlikely to be able to adjust its position to land feet-first. Of course, if it falls from a great height, a cat’s ability to reposition itself will not matter, because the force of the fall will cause serious injury or even death whether the cat’s feet hit the ground first or not. Moreover, if a cat falls from a short height, it may not have enough time to twist around and land on its feet."<br /> <br /> <br /> A tree would count as a "great height".

04-5-2011 at 6:17 AM
"cats are more agile than people are. i don't think there goina fall out of a tree more times than a humen being is."<br /> <br /> So, in saying that, you're basically discrediting your own statistics by saying it doesn't make *sense* for cats to be injured by falling out of a tree, and that it's not a good comparison?

04-5-2011 at 5:30 AM
I'm beginning to question why I started posting in this thread again <br /> <br /> because your good at debateing

04-5-2011 at 5:28 AM
I'm beginning to question why I started posting in this thread again :(

04-5-2011 at 5:26 AM
Cat's bones aren't as strong as humans. That's not a fair comparison.<br /> <br /> cats are more agile than people are. i don't think there goina fall out of a tree more times than a humen being is.

04-5-2011 at 5:21 AM
Cat's bones aren't as strong as humans. That's not a fair comparison.

04-5-2011 at 5:20 AM
Cat bones are a lot weaker/thinner then human bones.

04-5-2011 at 5:19 AM
There's a higher chance of your cat getting injured from falling out of a tree than a dresser toppling over.<br /> <br /> really? Now i dont know about you guys but when i was younger, i was always in a tree, ive fallen out of my fair shair of them, cats are more agile than people are. i don't think there goina fall out of a tree more times than a humen being is. (just for the records 0 broken bones)

04-5-2011 at 5:16 AM
I've had my cat stuck in a tree before, but never had a dresser fall on a cat.

04-5-2011 at 5:10 AM
..There's a higher chance of your cat getting injured from falling out of a tree than a dresser toppling over.

04-5-2011 at 5:01 AM
I've never ever had a dresser fall over onto a cat.<br /> <br /> im saying its HIGHLY more likely for a dresser to fall over onto a cat than a tree. Or even that cat tree, im shure most of you have one for your cat, theres more of a possiblity for it to topple over onto your cat than a normal out side tree.

04-5-2011 at 4:59 AM
...Yeah that has to be a very unstable dresser. I can hang on the one in my grandmother's bedroom...<br /> <br /> And a fall from a tree is about 10 times more likely to cause injury to your cat than a small fall from a dresser.<br /> <br /> And just because you can call your pet doesn't mean you have control...-_-

04-5-2011 at 4:48 AM
Yeah I don't see how that is base for an argument at all. I've never ever had a dresser fall over onto a cat. Also, cats cannot break their legs and die jumping from a dresser.
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04-5-2011 at 4:44 AM
☣Клейтон☣ no like a <a href="http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/public/JsvIRv854dabCX6MQ9XpAB8h43UPLgKR2_ZlF73Zspg3sTuHOudi3IB5mI66h0xh_MYW3SzZcnsXiEGN1MRifKIL9rU3REilNPRkKl3OLYODTdophOf-4OfG_Mo7fSOch6TSWQNf6axtyiPXkY-L2tpHiTo792cC0xdFhsOaHMRPNK9wEg"> dresser </a> vs a <a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fp1TvPT3pZg/TQhdh-TcCVI/AAAAAAAAA9U/T_yGajIuYVw/s400/treesAndGrerb.jpg"> tree </a>

04-5-2011 at 4:39 AM
<i>"A tree has less likely hood of topling over onto a cat than a dresser."</i><br>No it doesn't. I assume we're talking about <a href=http://www.furniturehomedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/bamboo-dresser.jpg rel=nofollow>Dresser</a> vs <a href=http://www.cozycatfurniture.com/images/cat_tree_topper_m.jpg rel=nofollow>Tree</a>?

04-5-2011 at 4:36 AM
Also, you said a dresser was dangerous, why not a tree then?<br /> <br /> A tree has less likely hood of topling over onto a cat than a dresser.<br /> <br /> Letting your cat free roam, out of your site and control is being irresponsible. Being responsible for your animals means being in control of them.<br /> <br /> i am in control of him, when i want him inside, i stand on the frunt porch yell and he comes a running. <br /> <br /> Look i get it you all are consirned because i let my cat outside. Theres no need to be. i live in a nice safe naiborhood, if theres a stray dog, it's owners are called less than 5 mins later the dog is off the street. speed limit is about 15mph, no car is going to sneek up on my cat and crush him, not that my cat would cross the street anyway, he stays in my block. <br /> <br /> i love my cat, ive done everything that people here seem to think is being responcible besides not letting him outdoors, as i have said, hes fixed so no extra litters of kittens there, hes got all his shots, hes even microchiped so if he is picked up he will be returned. there is no need to be worried about my pet.

04-5-2011 at 4:23 AM
"<br /> No im not, i love my cat, it gets its shots, its fixed and it goes outside because it likes it. hes also microchiped so if he IS picked up by the shelter he will be returned, and i live in the city, no cyotes here. as for dogs my cat can climb a tree, a dog can't. Fact is people tend to forget just how recorceful a cat is."<br /> <br /> My dog can outrun a cat. I've had my dog outback (6 foot completely fenced in yard) and a cat leaped over the fence. My dog crossed the entire yard and was on that cat within seconds. <br /> <br /> That cat is just lucky my dog didn't attack it, he dropped down and went into a play bow, and the cat hissed and took off.<br /> <br /> Cat's are not that resourceful.<br /> <br /> Also, you said a dresser was dangerous, why not a tree then?<br /> <br /> Letting your cat free roam, out of your site and control is being irresponsible. Being responsible for your animals means being in control of them.<br /> <br /> http://www.dogsaver.org/caninecrusaders/responsible.htm<br /> <br /> "<br /> • Don't let your pets run loose. Dogs should be walked leashes. Any outdoor off leash access should be secure in a fenced area. An outdoor cats average lifespan is 3 years, an indoor cat's average lifespan is 14 years. "

04-5-2011 at 4:22 AM
<i>"No im not, i love my cat, it gets its shots, its fixed and it goes outside because it likes it. hes also microchiped so if he IS picked up by the shelter he will be returned, and i live in the city, no cyotes here. as for dogs my cat can climb a tree, a dog can't. Fact is people tend to forget just how recorceful a cat is."</i><br><br>Dogs can run a lot faster than cats. Dogs can also maul cats to death. & vinegar + spraybottle method is extremely cruel. Vinegar is acidic. Spray it in your eyes & mouth and then tell me how humane that method is.<br>When my cats want to go outside, I put a blanket and pillow inside a big dog crate and sit outside on the porch with them. They just lay in the sun and watch the birds. If they're not in the crate, I walk around in the yard with them on their leashes.<br><a href=http://i51.tinypic.com/25f7dyo.jpg rel=nofollow>[LINK]</a>
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