Creation Vs. Evolution
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So which do you believe in? Why? And can you back up your claim?
I may poke my nose into this debate later. ^^
NOTE: As the mods have said before, keep this friendly. I really don't like seeing people bashing each other. It's not nice. And it's not polite. Use common sense.
Sierra4 (#10879)
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03-15-2011 at 10:19 AM
<br /> “Evil does not exist, or at least it does not exist <br /> unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, <br /> a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create <br /> evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God’s love <br /> present in his heart. It’s like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the <br /> darkness that comes when there is no light.â€<br /> <br /> I’m a very strong Christian; I believe 100% in the bible and follow it best I can. Actually, if you do your research the evolution theory does not make any sense, because though they say things evolved from different things they have yet to actually discover the ‘link’, meaning the bones of the something that was in the middle of evolving. Also, carbon dating is only reliable for specimens which only date back a few thousand years, how can someone say it is millions of years old if any results beyond that few thousand years is a highly problematic? As for the “Why is their starving children in Africa if there is a God†question, that’s simple. When sin entered the world it brought with it all these problems from disease to hunger to murder and so on. God didn’t make robots; he made us with free will, which is why we are here today. God knows what he’s doing, and we cannot comprehend it no matter how hard we think. It would be like an ant trying to understand a human; we don’t have the capacity to comprehend it. We just have to trust. Also, what do Christians have to lose? If what evolution says is true (Which it’s not, but for argument sake ;) ) then it’s not like we get punished for believing in Christ. However, when Jesus comes back those who do not believe will very much regret it in the end. There is more proof that Jesus walked the earth than there is George Washington was the first American president, that’s not false statistics either. =) <br />
Hypno Shroom (#6878)
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02-9-2011 at 12:23 PM
I think Jambers is just confused.
Nitrous (#9181)
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02-7-2011 at 11:11 PM
They see me trollin', they hatin'...
GeistNoir (#4246)
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02-7-2011 at 4:13 PM
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I do not mean this to be offensive. I am genuinely bewildered, curious, and only one conclusion seems logical, so..<br /><br />Jambers, are you a troll?<br /><br /><img src="http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1062/trollspeedoflight2.png">
I do not mean this to be offensive. I am genuinely bewildered, curious, and only one conclusion seems logical, so..<br /><br />Jambers, are you a troll?<br /><br /><img src="http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/1062/trollspeedoflight2.png">
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2011-02-07 05:15:39 by #4246
Alexpark (#94)
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01-17-2011 at 1:53 AM
Just for giggles I read the debate board, but seriously I am extremely confused by Jambers.
Edit: oh I am for evolution. Atheist here *raise's hand*
Edit: oh I am for evolution. Atheist here *raise's hand*
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2011-01-16 14:54:50 by #94
jive (#4772)
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01-17-2011 at 1:51 AM
This is not a lack of understanding nor ability to understand on my part. You've not presented a coherent, rational argument at all. What you <i>did</i> post was countered, and then you just repeated the same thing over and over. <br /><br />If that's me not understanding "what's right in front of me," then...all right. But I feel that you've been answered thoroughly by multiple people, and you have failed to present any other cogent points for debate. If there's nothing available to which I can reply, how am I supposed to make a reasonable, rational counter?
Jambers (#8362)
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01-17-2011 at 12:57 AM
then your reading them, but not getting my belief points. thats not my folt if you cant understand something thats right there in frunt of you
Nitrous (#9181)
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01-17-2011 at 12:54 AM
Seconded. -__-
jive (#4772)
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01-17-2011 at 12:19 AM
Because your posts aren't clear in any way; they don't make a connection in a satisfactory manner.
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2011-01-16 13:19:57 by #4772
Jambers (#8362)
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01-17-2011 at 12:17 AM
if youve read it then i dont see why i would have to tell you how it connects.
jive (#4772)
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01-17-2011 at 12:16 AM
I've read all your posts. Please don't insinuate I'm arguing without basis.
Jambers (#8362)
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01-16-2011 at 11:24 PM
9th post down nathaniel
jive (#4772)
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01-16-2011 at 11:04 PM
Except that hypotheses have not been tested. Evolutionary theory has. I don't see how that connects.
Jambers (#8362)
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01-16-2011 at 10:54 PM
assumpiton are based on speculation, you might as well call it a hypothesis then
jive (#4772)
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01-16-2011 at 10:14 PM
The burden of proof to show there is a higher power lies with those making the claim; there is no way to prove a negative, so "disproving" any god's existence is impossible.<br /><br />Assuming there is no god makes far more logical sense than assuming there is.
Jambers (#8362)
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01-16-2011 at 8:13 PM
ok do you even read what i write, there not even sure on there educated guess. they have no clue. go back and read the sorces please, just because you dont believe in a higher power does not meen that everyone who does is wrong. if science cant prove it, if they have no idea, i believe there must be something out there that knows whats going on with the bigger picture.
Nitrous (#9181)
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01-16-2011 at 8:07 PM
An "educated guess" and "no idea" are two <b>completely</b> different things.
Jambers (#8362)
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01-16-2011 at 8:04 PM
no its NOT wrong ive given you 2 scorces, the best they have is a educated guess and there not even sure on that. go back and look at the sorces if you dont believe me.
Nitrous (#9181)
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01-16-2011 at 7:36 PM
"Science also says they have no idea where the stuff came from to form our planets."<br /><br />Wrong.
Jambers (#8362)
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01-16-2011 at 5:57 PM
it makes perfect sence, Science proves that there was a tempiture and if that tempiture went over or under insted of planets there would have been a black hole insted. Science also says they have no idea where the stuff came from to form our planets. Its just to much of a cawincadence that thease things just showed up for me. So I personaly believe that there was someone out there putting thease things into play, then after the big bang, he backed off. He had bigger more importent things to do and still does, do i believe that a generaly good person will go to h*** wile another person whos merdered 10 or 15 people will get to go to heven? no. just a flat out NO. if your a good person, i like to think that your going to heven. Do i believe evolushion is real? yes, theres just to much evadence saying that it is to turn and walk the other way. It may not make sence to some people, but it does for me, and it works for me.