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I have noticed a trend in the thread closings over the last few months. Almost all off the threads I am referring to have been closed when certain person(s) come in and starts spouting off their opinions as fact and then yelling at others and saying they are wrong when they cannot provide any proof for their own argument. (I'm saying proof, just because I think a debate should be based on facts and not just opinions.) Obviously people argue back but it tends to degrade from there into a huge bleep-fest, and the the thread being locked in the end.

Do you feel it is fair for the rest of us to have our debates shut down because certain person(s) almost always cause the thread to be closed? Why should all of us be punished and have to stop debating about something because of said person(s)? I've counted several threads thus far that this has happened in, and all involved the same person(s).

Please, please, please leave names out of this. It isn't meant to be a personal attack on anyone, but I am getting highly aggravated at more and more threads being closed because of drama that is almost always associated with said person(s). I am just curious how others feel on this topic.

06-11-2011 at 4:29 AM

WHile one person may start it others continue to reply to the person in aggressive, insulting and other inappropriate ways. It's not always who started it but also who kept the fire burning. If you want the threads to stay open then ignore the trouble makers.

06-10-2011 at 5:57 PM

Lately, yes i agree with the thread closing. If they were not closed it would have just sunk even lower from there. Because no matter the warnings people would not stop or change their behavior. Same with some of the edited posts. Compared with everything that was not edited out, i'd be very scared to see what they did edit out =/ After a certain point, i do feel it should be blamed on the person and not the topic. Some topics just aren't conductive to a civil debate. While some are, and its some people who ruin it time and time again. I'm not sure if it is just because some people can't accept that someone doesn't agree with them and they drag out it and just continuously go back and forth with no real end in sight. Or If just yelling at each other is what people consider a debate, but something must be done to let them know, they aren't really 'debating'. I rarely actually post in a debate thread because i don't want everything i say twisted and just have people yelling at me because they think differently. I personally find this kinda sad =/

06-10-2011 at 5:31 PM

I agree, I find it unfair as well. I enjoy a good levelheaded debate and dislike seeings threads get closed.

06-10-2011 at 2:58 PM

I don't like seeing the threads closed, but sometimes (as was the case with the most recent couple of closures) it seems necessary that something be done to stop the bickering. If it's left open, everyone will gravitate further and further apart and it'll all turn into a screaming match, and that's not healthy for anyone involved...

06-10-2011 at 11:23 AM

I don't like it. I don't like the thread closings and I especially do not like moderators editing posts. In fact, every time I see it, I get a bit more angry.

06-10-2011 at 7:09 AM

Yeah, anyways, back on topic. I think it's hugely unfair. I love to debate. I spend a ton of time researching different controversial subjects in my spare time and the like, and of course, most of the boards that get locked are the ones focusing on the most controversial issues. I love being able to go from feeding and taking care of a virtual dog to taking part in a hugely serious debate incredibly interesting and open. Pet sites I was on in the past didn't allow debate threads, or strictly limited them and it drove me crazy.

06-10-2011 at 5:38 AM

This debate will be allowed to continue if it stays on the topic of the debate board's behavior and NOT aimed at players. (this is just a warning as I see it is quickly getting out of hand)

06-10-2011 at 5:33 AM

Jambers please step out of this thread, you are trying to cause drama and there is no need. As I pointed out, this thread is not about anyone in particular. It is about whether everyone should have to stop debating because a few people ruin it for everyone or not.

06-10-2011 at 5:33 AM

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2011-06-09 19:49:42 by #33

2011-06-09 19:33:53 by #9181

06-10-2011 at 5:31 AM

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2011-06-09 19:50:27 by #33

06-10-2011 at 5:30 AM

I'd enjoy if you did that, Dr. It's not because you're posting "hardcore" topics. A few of these players have had more threads locked than I can count on both hands and feet.

06-10-2011 at 5:29 AM

I think it's completely unfair. I know of several people who think I'm part of the problem, but I'm, at most, the first aftershock after the initial instigation. I'm actually incredibly capable of having intelligent debates with all my arguments backed up. I do it quite often. I have several friends that I clash with on political levels and I'm quite close with them. And we have debates all the time. I can control myself. But there are several people in specific that just yell and scream and give absolutely no evidence for their arguments, which sets off calm posts in response, until they completely twist what people say and demand that they are right without even considering the opposition, in which case all considerations and kindnesses are out the window already. After enough time of this, it sets off one or two users who set up the aftershocks of their posts, which in the end causes pretty much all of the users in the thread to go insane and start screaming. God, I kind of think this post made very little sense.XD I was a bit distracted while posting this. But...oh well.XP

06-10-2011 at 5:29 AM

well my hardcore topics have been closed because fights ruin the entire debate for everyone but i plan on making a new thread, same topic. i asked mod and they said im welcomed to repost the same topic on a new thread.

06-10-2011 at 5:28 AM

Jambers, this post is not about anyone in particular and I should know since I posted it. It's about whether or not everyone on these forums should have to suffer for the actions of a few. Please contribute to the conversation or step out.

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2011-06-09 19:28:47 by #5641

06-10-2011 at 5:27 AM

This doesn't address a particular person.

06-10-2011 at 5:26 AM

Jambers, the rule you posted doesn't apply here by its description. You may not make passive agressive posts about them, either.

06-10-2011 at 5:20 AM

"Harassing of any kind (this includes but is not limited to: badgering for prices or items, as well as name calling or general repetitive undesired communication) will not be tolerated on Alacrity. Respect your fellow members by not insulting their beliefs, art, or anything else. You may not make passive agressive posts about them, either." This post is not breaking any rules that I am aware of. It is not aimed at or about anyone in particular, it is purely out of curiosity if it is fair to the other players that everything continously be locked due to the actions of a few or if those few should be removed for the good of the forums. If you wish to debate this, please do. Do you feel the forums should be a free for all, or do you think constant trouble makers should be removed so the rest of us can continue a debate in a civil manner?

06-10-2011 at 5:19 AM

Jambers, the rule you posted doesn't apply here by its description. No names have been used, and I'm sure even though you seem to think so, this doesn't only address one person. Please either contribute something relevant or ignore the thread. Thanks.

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2011-06-09 19:20:31 by #9181

06-10-2011 at 5:14 AM

Harassing of any kind (this includes but is not limited to: badgering for prices or items, as well as name calling or general repetitive undesired communication) will not be tolerated on Alacrity. Respect your fellow members by not insulting their beliefs, art, or anything else. You may not make passive agressive posts about them, either.

06-10-2011 at 5:12 AM

It's completely unjust. I'm sick of moderators tossing out punishments in every direction, and closing threads in replacement of actually punishing the guilty party(s). There is no accountability here, and many times you can't even defend yourself without being "guilty". I don't want to start up with the petty "well they started it!" argument but I think it definitely in some cases needs to be considered. Especially in cases where it is well known that there's a primary instigator or two against nearly everyone else in the thread. Something needs to be done. /Yesterday/.

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