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Owning Animals
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I was instructed to take this to debate, so here I go.

I am of the firm belief that all animals should require a license (gained by paying a fee and taking a written test) to be owned. Everything from hamsters to cats to dog to snakes to sugar gliders, everything. There are too many uneducated owners.

There was a point brought up that it would be 'too expensive' to own an animal then, which I think is part of the point. If you cannot afford to pay a small fee then you cannot afford to care for an animal. I'm talking proper food, proper vet care, etc, not just "Well, they're not actively starving/dying/etc..."

And before someone mentions "Well, I have the right to own an animal!" I'd like to advise against that statement. I'd rather this not turn into an 'Animals aren't property!' and 'Animals have rights too!' debate/rant.

01-25-2012 at 2:21 AM
Here's the catch-22 in this situation. No matter how many tests you take, no matter how much money you pay, you will NEVER be a good pet owner. The only way to be a good pet owner is through experience. And yes, that experience may involve a few mistakes, may inconvenience yourselves or others. So, you can't take a test to determine if you're a good pet owner and pass it unless you've owned the pet, no matter how many classes you've taken. And if this rule comes into play, then you won't be able to have a pet without taking the test. It's a catch-22<br /> <br /> Because I am a firm believe in the fact that not a single person on this planet was just born knowing how to be the perfect owner. I remember the first time I let my first pet (a budgie) out of his cage- well, I had remembered to draw the curtains and cover the mirrors, but as a result, I left the room pitch black. Let's just say Sky didn't enjoy that a bit.<br /> <br /> The fact of the matter is, everyone is, or has been, a bad owner at one point or another. A test isn't going to change any of that at all.<br /> <br /> Hope I didn't revive a dead post ^^

11-28-2011 at 9:45 PM
I disagree with this for a few reasons. One being (as said before) things are already expensive. A lot people who don't make the most money can afford to properly care for their pets. It varies from person to person, where your priorities lie, and how you view your animals. <br /> <br /> I must say that my pets don't have the best care at the moment. Do I agree with it? Nope. But I now have a job and will be able to pay for vet care, proper food, housing, etc. I make at most $40 a week right now. Does that mean I should have to pay a fee to own my cat and guinea pig? Nope. I can get my pets all they need with that money not to mention a bit more will be coming in soon.<br /> <br /> I would not pay an $100 per year fee for pets. I simply wouldn't own pets, and think a lot of people would rather not own a pet than pay an extra $100 per month that they could spend on something else.<br /> <br /> I do agree there are a lot of people who really don't know how (or want to learn how) to care for their animals. It isn't fair to the animal. I also agree that people should be able to afford an animal before thinking of getting an animal (which is a HUGE responsibility)... Eh, I am all jumbled up in my writing and this didn't come out the way I wanted it to. Ah well. There is my bit.

11-5-2011 at 7:32 AM
Gingertail, your vet refused to euthanize in a situation like that.... I personally would find a new vet.<br /> <br /> GDV is NOT a nice way to die...

11-5-2011 at 3:46 AM
I honestly don't see how a test will fix anything. For example. We have a test we all must take to get a drivers license and yet we still see plenty of, for lack of a better word, stupid drivers.

11-4-2011 at 10:43 PM
I disagree with this because we can barely scrape enough together as it is, yet our pets always come before us. A few years back, our lovely shelter suprise mix Sampson's stomach flipped, he was already dying of cancer so the vet said we could do a 10000$ surgery, or take him home to die, but they refused to euthaize him. My mom, without even thinking handed over her credit card and paid for the surgery, and we were blessed to spend 3 more months with one of the most loving dogs we have ever owned. But we suffered finacially from that. Had we to pay for testing and to keep our animals we have, my mom may not have paid for the surgery. Nor would we probably have any pets, and honestly I don't think I could live without my Dane Lucy, She has helped me through many hard times.

11-2-2011 at 12:39 AM
Hmmm interesting, my first thought was similar to Inno's as things are expensive and these days many are being left at shelters as is, although understood the discussion being if you take and pass the test you can own as many of that species types as you can care for and want. How about if it further went, you have to pay to take the test but if passed your money is returned, if you dont pass then you cant keep them or own them, but that can also backfire as many dont want the bother of a class or test. <br /> <br /> I have never owned a dog and feel I have studied and learned far more on the care and needs of one then most that own them. Its also always ticked me off, how many people own dogs to leave them tied up in yards 24/7 with minimal care or food. Then those like me whom would do ANYTHING to have a dog, know how to care for them but are dictated as to whether they can or not by apt owners. I dont think theres any real answer.

10-29-2011 at 1:46 PM
Taking a test and paying a fee may take the number of unresponsible pet owners sown a little bit,but what about all of the people who dont care about laws? They would most likely own a pet anyway even if it was illegal. Think about it, there is already illegal dog fight s and such, so those people would most likely just keep getting animals.

09-3-2011 at 10:30 AM
True, but it may help cut back on the numbers of uneducated, irresponsible 'owners'. What you said can be said for just about anything: Just because it's illegal to murder someone doesn't mean people won't do it, for example.

09-3-2011 at 10:04 AM
Taking a test and paying a fee won't guarentee anything, just because someone takes a test and they know how to care for them doesn't mean they will, like puppy mills, they can take a test all they want saying they know how to feed them etc and most probably do, but they just want the money

09-3-2011 at 8:11 AM
Don't get me wrong, I grew up lower class too, flitting between motel rooms and homeless shelters. Maybe the fee thing should be rethought, but I'm pretty firm on the written test portion. Maybe I'm just getting sick of people around me getting animal after animal and then watching that animal live off the bare minimum nutrition because "feeding them more uses too much dog food".

08-21-2011 at 12:55 PM
If this were implemented, a lot of people who can currently afford to properly care for animals suddenly might not be able to. Which leads to animals being put in shelters. Which isn't a good thing.<br /> <br /> A written test? Sure! This would weed out a lot of crazies. But a lot of people care for multiple animals, and slapping a fee on that <i>would</i> end up hurting animals instead of helping them.<br /> <br /> And classism isn't cool. I grew up in the lower class category, so this topic left me raising an eyebrow.<br /> <br /> We always took care of our animals when I was young. And other people's animals. In ways that benefited the animals but left us at a definite loss. Vet bills before supper and school supplies that I needed.

08-21-2011 at 7:46 AM
$100 a year, even for a handful of goldfish? on top of tank supplies, food, filters, and everything else? If this happened, goldfish would become a pet exclusively for the absurdly rich.

08-8-2011 at 8:11 PM
It'd have to be, say, $100 a year or something for small animals, such as rabbits, mice, gerbils, hamsters, fish, etc, and would allow you to own as many of that animal as you'd like.<br /> <br /> Maybe I'm just sick and tired of watching people collect twenty animals and not know how to properly care for a single one?

08-8-2011 at 7:55 PM
I agree with everything Inno just said, I actually have my very own small rabbitry and I'm only 13, how would the papers work then? If I care for them constantly would my parents have to do it? And I, as a young teen, wouldn't be able to pay for that period, it's already hard to pay for food etc.

08-8-2011 at 1:40 PM
I don't see why you'd want to even consider this.<br /> <br /> I can understand that all animals have rights, humans are animals, and the animals we own have the right to be well cared for, to not be afraid or abused, and such. There's similar rights for children and places such as job settings for humans.<br /> <br /> I own a rabbitry, it might be small compared to most in my state and everything, but if I had to pay anymore money for the rabbits I owned I wouldn't be able to feed them. Usually the rabbits I buy are high quality show or brood rabbits, these animals often cost between $35 USD to $300 USD. Currently the going price for a 3-4 month old rabbit in my breed(Netherland Dwarf) is about $40 - $60 USD, and these rabbits aren't even fully matured and may not grow up into being show quality rabbits.<br /> <br /> If I had to take a test and pay a fee on owning these rabbits, I'd be wasting tons of money because I don't breed like a rabbit mill and I never will do that either.<br /> <br /> I'm also pretty sure I'd never find buyers for the rabbits I produce, which is pretty hard already because not many people want the smaller breeds because they don't make good meat rabbits. So I'd have too many unwanted rabbits(in my sense) in my barn, most rabbit breeders kill the rabbits they can't hold onto or can't find homes for... I really don't see myself doing that partly because I know I could never kill a rabbit.<br /> <br /> Just because there are uneducated owners out there doesn't mean they can't learn how to take care of the animals. When I got my first rabbit, who lived for a long ten years with me, I didn't know much of anything about the species. I eventually got a good idea, got educated by local breeders, and started becoming more and more interested in rabbits and I learned more and more.<br /> <br /> It's just like a first time mom, heck yes people can tell you that your baby is going to cry its little head off 24/7 or that you're going to be so exhausted you won't be able to take care of it or whatever. I really don't know, you know why? Because I've never had a kid. <br /> <br /> Humans have a huge hidden instinct to nurture everything they see, there can be cruel or uncaring individuals, but these people usually had something happen in their past that wasn't really good for them mentally. Just because someone or something screwed them up doesn't mean everyone should have to pay for it, I most certainly wouldn't pay the fee and take a test to own rabbits. I know what's best for my individual rabbits and no one else knows because they have no business in my animals anyway.

08-8-2011 at 11:56 AM
If you do not pass a written test and do not pay a fee, you do not get to own an animal. No cats, no dogs, no hamsters, lizards, snakes, birds, fish. I was wondering other people's opinions of this.

08-8-2011 at 11:53 AM
I don't get it

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