01-26-2012 at 8:02 PM

I'd like to encourage the conversation to stray from handicapping either low TP dogs or high TP dogs. ^^;<br /> <br /> The intention was to reduce the rate of pure-win trialing as a whole and encourage competition between players as well as a more controlled distribution of money to player as opposed to one takes all. Not to strictly reduce the rate of capped dogs trialing.<br /> <br /> If the trial limit is implemented there will be at the very least two players winning trials at any given time instead of one.<br /> <br /> It does mean a bit of a financial loss for some in the way of entry fees, but these dogs tend to move past Scooby-Odie very quickly which will allow lower TP dogs to trial effectively against one another and higher TP moving on against eachother, especially if we can reduce the rate capped dogs are being massed trained (food bowl removal from boutique was one and maintaining water bowl rarity is the other).<br /> <br /> It should allow lower TP dogs to continue trialing again with each other as before, but with outside competition. Most low TP (under 1k) will not profit very much past Odie already and it will not be worth trialing them by then.<br /> <br /> That is why I encourage more alternative activity ideas to be suggested for all dogs regardless of TP that is not changing the current trial system. :)<br /> <br /> Edit: Though in regards to the latter, those suggestions are better built upon for the suggestion forum rather than here.

01-26-2012 at 7:37 PM

<em>"There are currently three up for sale and have been for the past few days, I know because two are mine and one has been sitting there for a while. One is only 50k."</em><br /> <br /> I must apologize for that one. My mistake. I was searching as the name "Capped" to filter through all the breeds for sale with a TP above 6000.<br /> <br /> <em>Umm yes it is. If you dont want to spend the money on a dog, or the time to train it, then you shouldn't be complaining about the people who DO spend the time and money on it. </em><br /> <br /> I have a life that I need to attend to, I can not spend every waking minute of my day on a <strong>game</strong>. If you are able to spend hours on here at a time, good for you, but I am extremely busy with my real pets, sports practices, and everything else.<br /> <br /> <em>You still have a chance at winning. LOOk at the trials, heck start a general discushion topic, get a group of people tougher to run there dogs with yours. Nothing is stopping you from doing thease things. People have other people they breed there dogs with all the time, so why not start a general discushion where you can enter your dog in the same trials? I'm sure people with upgraded accounts have dogs with low TP as well and would run trials just for you and the people in the group. Stop blaming it on the caped TP dogs when the real issue is the fact that you dont want to look to see whos in the trial. or look for other ways to run the trials. Its not the Caped dogs falt. </em><br /> <br /> You keep saying "its not the capped dogs fault", so it's the low TP'd dogs fault? I guarantee that those who trial just <strong>once</strong> a day with their maxed capped dog in a Odie+ trial make way more than my trial team will ever make in a day. <br /> <br /> As I stated before, that still would not stop people from entering their maxed capped dogs simply because it ensures a win. Don't say it won't happen, because it happens <em>now</em>, and the option hasn't even been in place yet.<br /> <br /> <em><br /> the only reason you are wanting to "scarifice" the hard work put into the caped dogs is because (and you said this yourself in a earler post) you dont have one, you run trial teams. Your willing to turn a blind eye to the fact that your trial teams are making money in all three places because you dont like the caped dogs in trials with your dogs. </em><br /> <br /> Just as you are willing to turn a blind eye to the lower TP'd dogs getting stomped all over because you <strong>do</strong> have a maxed capped dog. <br /> <br /> <br /> And that was a ton of typing :P My hand hurtss C:<br /> <br />

01-26-2012 at 7:00 PM

<i>"No support. The reason why people strive for higher TPs is so that they can win $$. It would defeat the purpose of breeding for higher-TP dogs."</i><br /> <br /> I stated the prizes would increase as the TP ranges did. How would this cause users to lose money? How would this prevent people from striving for higher TP dogs? I certainly would try to reach the higher ranges if it meant better prizes.<br /> <br /> Even if this was implemented, I don't think it would solve the problem of there being too much cashflow coming in. :(

01-26-2012 at 6:15 PM

<i>Is there a reason that TP levels (say 0-300, 300-600, etc.) with a randomized winner wouldn't work? This assures dogs of the same level compete against each other, but everyone has a fair chance of winning. Prizes go up as ranges go up. This would keep people striving to reach the higher ranks.</i><br /> No support. The reason why people strive for higher TPs is so that they can win $$. It would defeat the purpose of breeding for higher-TP dogs.<br /> <br /> <i>"This is the entire point of reworking the current trial system. People compete entirely way too much aided by the unfair advantage of trial teams, which assures them three large prizes.</i><br /> That's the thing though, this only really targets the team-trialers [who lose money anyways] and the people with capped dogs. I don't see people trial entire 5-dog teams of capped dogs, it's a big waste of money.<br /> <br /> <i>"By increasing the energy spent, TP monsters which climb the ranks quickly, will be slowed down a bit."</i><br /> They only climb the ranks quickly because they mow down the lower-TP dogs in the low trial levels. That's all.

01-26-2012 at 2:07 PM

I like capped dogs. Having very high TP dogs is the ultimate goal of this site. What I don't like is what capped dogs are doing to the economy when they win trials.<br /> <br /> There's nothing wrong with spending real cash a year ago and having an item released for fake cash later on. Things change. That's just how life works. <br /> <br /> Your spending real cash a year ago has given you a distinct advantage over players just joining the game currently, whether you realize it or not.

01-26-2012 at 1:47 PM

This is not meant to ‘bash’ or ‘punish’ any owners of low/high TP dogs, it’s just my calculations...<br /> <br /> I trialed my 700TP dog and he made 1058$, but it costs me $200-$300 (can't remember exact amount) so i've made a whopping $700-$800 for that one dog. But, i did trial a team so x3 dogs placed = $2,400 (approx. they're not all the same TP) - the 2 that didn't place $2k-$2,200 in one trial at odie level. x4 trials with the 100 rollover energy is about $8,800, and that not including food, comanions, items...<br /> <br /> I saw a capped dog and the user log said that dog earned 15k in one trial run, x4 is 60k, not including a team/other dogs you've entered, companions, food...<br /> <br /> I like (Three?)'s suggestion of increasing the energy it takes to enter the trials, then my dogs would trial less and thus lower my income (i don't mind if it helps ala) and the capped/monster dog's as well.<br /> <br /> And as some people have pointed out, it is the higher TP dogs making more money thus causing the inflation.<br /><br />EDIT: i forgot to subtract the 2 dogs that didn't place from my dogs calculations >.>

01-26-2012 at 12:48 PM

"<br /> I still don't understand the reasoning behind limiting all dogs in trials when it's a smaller percentage that are actually able to make a real income from trials (and thus cause inflation).<br /> <br /> If lower TP dogs aren't meant to run, why hammer them into the ground further instead of just focusing on the TP ranges of dogs that are raking in too much cash?"<br /> <br /> *round of applause*<br /> <br /> Trial teams do not make as money as capped dogs. If the concern is for the economy, something needs to be done about those dogs as opposed to the little guys who make like 100 - 500 dollars per trial.<br /> <br /> I still think my idea of trials taking up more energy is the best way to keep everyone slightly happy at least because the little guys still stand a chance and the big guys can continue making loads of money (which they deserve, because maxing capped dogs is super hard and time-consuming). Plus it will boost the economy as everyone scrambles to buy energy companions (at least I would assume so). But maybe I'm biased XD

01-26-2012 at 12:15 PM

" Do you see what I'm getting at?"<br /> <br /> Yeah your still not looking at your dogs as a trial team as the issue. You still want to punish people who are working very hard on caped dogs because you don't like them. <br /> <br /> As for it being to hard for all newbie players to get started on the game, EVERYONE went threw that, I went threw that. i sold sessions when i started the game, didnt train my dogs right away sold my in-kennel training sessions to make money to buy a higher TP dog to make money with. and when i got her, i did breed her, and with a higher TP dog to get more higher TP dogs and i sold most of them kept one or two, breed them (not with echother) to get another higher TP dog. I'm working on my own caped lines. Why put the time and effert in if i get treated differently than people who own lower TP dogs? The point of the game was to breed higher and higher TP dogs, to run in trials, that was the whole point. So why the hate for the dogs? <br /> <br /> " It is your choice whether or not you want to spend real money on this game. I don't believe anywhere in The Rules or the TOS does it say that prices will remain the same forever."<br /> <br /> There called RARE items for a reason, when i bought my scollar collar it was a "rare item" Now everyone and his brother has one. so yes i am upset the cash shop is there. Whats the point of spending REAL money on something one year just to have it handed out for fake money later?

01-26-2012 at 10:15 AM

"Trial teams are doing this you win first second and third places all that ala cash is going to one person. at least with caped dogs its split up between people. a person with a caped dog only puts one maybe two dogs in a trial, wile the trial teams fill every spot so they get all that money."<br /> <br /> Look at what your capped dog makes in one win. If it's over 2k, it's more than my trial teams make when all 3 of my dogs place.<br /> <br /> I may be wrong, but I do believe people who trial team are those who have dogs that can still be pretty easily beaten. If someone can actually PROVE that trial times are ruining the economy -- please show me something concrete.<br /> <br /> "It IS a punishment but not for that reason. What your saying is lower the amount of money given for well trained well bread dogs and keep the same amount for the lower dogs in TP. How is that even close to being fair?"<br /> <br /> Because the amount of cash that lower TP dogs make in trials is actually where it should be. Whereas the amount of money that very high TP dogs is not where it should be, so it's a problem. The reason I say that lower TP dog prizes are where they should be is because you can NOT make a reasonable income through only trialing low TP dogs (even if you team them). It pushes a player to breed for higher TP in order to make more money.<br /> <br /> "I put time and money into my dogs. My scollar coller was not bought at the cash shop i payed 10 REAL dollars for it. it was soposto be a "rare training item" and would aprechate in value over time, THATS not about to happen now that you can get one for ala cash now is it? im on my second year long upgrade, my first one i payed for out of my own pocket. i payed 20 dollars and this is REAL money not ala cash for a artic fox because i was told it would allow me to train more and run more trials, now you want to stop the trial runs on the artic fox too. And when i go to make my own capped line (witch i am currently working on) i will use more items i payed REAL money for. So yes you are punishing people who poored money into this game. people who donate all the time by saying now they arnt alowed to make the same rashio as low TP dogs in trial because "there dog makes to much" Next thing you know you will be wanting to do away with the Chances, the breeders perks, and the training perks because they lead to caped dogs. "<br /> <br /> 1.) It is your choice whether or not you want to spend real money on this game. I don't believe anywhere in The Rules or the TOS does it say that prices will remain the same forever.<br /> <br /> 2.) The ratio for high TP dogs is not the same as low TP dogs. I tried doing a little math on one of my lower dogs vs. a higher one I randomly found in the Gromit trials (I don't enjoy math, so if I'm wrong and you can correct what I show below, please do).<br /> <br /> (1st Place Prize Money)/(Points Scored) = Dollars per Points.<br /> <br /> For a capped out dog I got that they make $3.5/point in trials. I don't know how to factor in entrance fees and stuff so I'm sorry about that.<br /> <br /> For one of my own dogs placing first, I get $1.5/point.<br /> <br /> So no, I don't really think that the ratio is the same. Is it supposed to be the same? I don't know. That's why I think that for really high TP dogs, they are making too much money.<br /> <br /> "the only reason you are wanting to "scarifice" the hard work put into the caped dogs is because (and you said this yourself in a earler post) you dont have one, you run trial teams. Your willing to turn a blind eye to the fact that your trial teams are making money in all three places because you dont like the caped dogs in trials with your dogs. "<br /> <br /> I said it before and I'll say it again. If I run all of my low TP dogs on both accounts 4 times, I make $8k (this is at Scooby and Dogbert levels... though the level does not matter... it's what they score in the trials right?). $8k is the amount that I got the last time I ran everyone (it's a hassle to do). One capped dog makes about $16 - $18k in a win. Do you see what I'm getting at?

01-26-2012 at 9:52 AM

I'm agreeing with basically everything Fleet and Hippie have said. Trialing is the only way I make any money at all, other than selling things I get from upgrades. I could never afford a scholar collar without donating, and without that, I would never have been able to make any money from trialing. The only reason I even have 2 is because I found one through the christmas (I think) explore game and got the first very early on alacrity when they were a riddler prize.<br /> <br /> Take those away and leave me with no ability to trial teams of dogs, and I'll be honest: I would not have stayed on alacrity this long. It's starting to seem like many sites, where newbies have a really hard time actually becoming anything close to successful. This isn't going to be fixed by eliminating trial teams and killing profits of those who trial; that's only going to hurt the people who can't afford to train incredibly high TP dogs, with magical items or no.<br /> <br /> I really don't know how I'll be making money if trial prizes or what have you are cut. And I'm not a multi-millionaire on here. I have a total of maybe 300k, a few rare items, and a ton of dogs that eat a ton of food. That's where my trial earnings go.<br /> If this goes the way it looks like it's going, I'll probably have to cut my kennels in half, at least, because I'm starting to have to train higher and higher TP dogs, and until they're maxed, they can't earn. So I have to house lots of unmaxed dogs to get higher TP ones trained. I'll be unable to make much money unless I freeze or sell a ton of dogs, and I don't have that many timestops.<br /> <br /> This seems like an attempt to fix the economy that has the best of intentions, but I don't think it was very well thought out.<br><br>edit for typos D:

01-26-2012 at 5:26 AM

I'll try not to get into the little miniature debate about Capped dogs, but I'm wondering, what constitutes a 'monster dog'? I can usually pop my dogs into trials without too much capped dog interference, if you wanna call it that. Yeah, it takes a second of looking into trials, but I don't mind. I lost my trial team recently, and even with it, I don't think I ever exceeded 80k in one day.<br /> <br /> Since then, I trial who I can, if there are any trials that only need a couple more entries. [Gotta say though, the lack of Otis trials in the evening at least is staggering.] I get one to two dogs in per trial up until Toto - where I do have a 4-dog-team awaiting a final member.<br /> <br /> Even so, I've never been one to trial every day because there's not much on Ala I want to spend my cash on /except/ getting to that cap. Since I started breeding corgis, I've been working to the cap, and frankly I thought [for a while until the cap was hit] that the tp would magically continue to climb. But then, that was back when I didn't entirely grasp the site. xD<br /> <br /> I don't think the new users are really able to get 'on their feet' anyway. Even a 300TP dog is ridiculous to train without a scholar collar, and having tried to do such with a 500TP shepherd in my earliest days, even with a borrowed Scholar Collar, it was painfully slow. <br /> <br /> Getting the money for a collar is surprisingly high for it being so necessary to train most any dog that isn't custom or foundation. I think that basically eliminates a lot of new players who get discouraged [with fair reason] by the sheer price of things on Ala anymore. <br /> <br /> I know we're trying to get money out of the economy, but cutting the trialing payouts - or the number of dogs one can enter per trial, or any of the options, really, isn't going to help the people who /don't/ have this surplus of money.<br /> <br /> And they're not spending it on much aside from food bowls and water bowls for higher TP/capped dogs. It's a matter of not wanting to buy anything. If I kept hoarding my money - and didn't buy my dogs their food bowls - like I'll no longer be doing apparently, thanks Cash Boutique - I'd be able to rack up an idiotic amount of money. I don't think that's really my fault, even if I had a capped dog. <br /> <br /> That and I see so many people trialing dogs with a TP of 29 or 7, or dogs that are hardly over basic-trained. I don't think people can get penalized for that. <br /> <br /> Getting money out of the economy is convincing people to spend the money they have on something offered by the site, and not in user shops. It's also balancing out how much things cost, because for new players, it's sort of unattainable [short of selling your soul, chicken smoothie pets, or some combination thereof]. <br /> <br /> While I see the problems it would create, I still enjoy the idea of all five dogs in a trial gaining some kind of monetary figure. Not necessarily a large amount, but at the very least their entry fee back.<br /> <br /> Anyway, the last part doesn't pertain to this little discussion, just idle prattle on my part [women are famous for that :D]

01-26-2012 at 2:06 AM

<i>"Trial teams are doing this you win first second and third places all that ala cash is going to one person. at least with caped dogs its split up between people. a person with a caped dog only puts one maybe two dogs in a trial, wile the trial teams fill every spot so they get all that money."</i><br><br> I just want to point out that trial teams make less a day than a capped dog does. I ran trials and I make about 10k a day, 20k if I trial as much as possible. (Someone else here mentioned they made about that with their team as well.) Considering half of those winnings were what it cost to enter in the first place, then I end up only winning about $5k-$10k. I've heard of users making that or more in ONE trial with a capped dog.<br /> <br /> I also want to point out that I have seen more than three capped dogs in a trial before.

01-26-2012 at 1:52 AM

"Capped dogs are making too much through wins. It's causing inflation. Which in turn means, it costs a lot more to max out a capped dog as the value of Ala cash depreciates. It's a vicious cycle that needs to be stopped."<br /> <br /> Trial teams are doing this you win first second and third places all that ala cash is going to one person. at least with caped dogs its split up between people. a person with a caped dog only puts one maybe two dogs in a trial, wile the trial teams fill every spot so they get all that money. <br /> <br /> "Yes, at first it seems like punishment since a person is used to raking in X amount of dollars per day, and suddenly that amount is reduced"<br /> <br /> It IS a punishment but not for that reason. What your saying is lower the amount of money given for well trained well bread dogs and keep the same amount for the lower dogs in TP. How is that even close to being fair? I put time and money into my dogs. My scollar coller was not bought at the cash shop i payed 10 REAL dollars for it. it was soposto be a "rare training item" and would aprechate in value over time, THATS not about to happen now that you can get one for ala cash now is it? im on my second year long upgrade, my first one i payed for out of my own pocket. i payed 20 dollars and this is REAL money not ala cash for a artic fox because i was told it would allow me to train more and run more trials, now you want to stop the trial runs on the artic fox too. And when i go to make my own capped line (witch i am currently working on) i will use more items i payed REAL money for. So yes you are punishing people who poored money into this game. people who donate all the time by saying now they arnt alowed to make the same rashio as low TP dogs in trial because "there dog makes to much" Next thing you know you will be wanting to do away with the Chances, the breeders perks, and the training perks because they lead to caped dogs. <br /> <br /> "However, it's for the good of the site to have that amount reduced if it means that Alacrity's economy stays healthy and regulated. Sort of like how keeping to a good diet is good for the body. <br /> <br /> Saying no to cake sucks sometimes, but it's a sacrifice for an overall good thing."<br /> <br /> the only reason you are wanting to "scarifice" the hard work put into the caped dogs is because (and you said this yourself in a earler post) you dont have one, you run trial teams. Your willing to turn a blind eye to the fact that your trial teams are making money in all three places because you dont like the caped dogs in trials with your dogs.

01-26-2012 at 1:01 AM

I still don't understand the reasoning behind limiting all dogs in trials when it's a smaller percentage that are actually able to make a real income from trials (and thus cause inflation).<br /> <br /> If lower TP dogs aren't meant to run, why hammer them into the ground further instead of just focusing on the TP ranges of dogs that are raking in too much cash?<br /> <br /> The point of all this discussion is to fix Ala's inflation problem. So focus on what's actually causing the inflation problem.<br /> <br /> I do not believe reducing low TP dogs' winnings or the amount they can run or how many can be entered into a trial will do ANYTHING to reduce inflation. Not when 1 capped dog can make the same as 15 lower TP dogs in one win.<br /> <br /> Capped dogs are making too much through wins. It's causing inflation. Which in turn means, it costs a lot more to max out a capped dog as the value of Ala cash depreciates. It's a vicious cycle that needs to be stopped.<br /> <br /> The goal is to reduce the flow of currency entering the system. If one portion of the flow is out of control, but another portion is not, it does more harm than good to to treat both as if they were equally the problem.<br /> <br /> Yes, at first it seems like punishment since a person is used to raking in X amount of dollars per day, and suddenly that amount is reduced. However, it's for the good of the site to have that amount reduced if it means that Alacrity's economy stays healthy and regulated. Sort of like how keeping to a good diet is good for the body. <br /> <br /> Saying no to cake sucks sometimes, but it's a sacrifice for an overall good thing.

01-25-2012 at 11:21 PM

Firstly there are Caped dogs aviilable. Check the GSD's. <br /> <br /> secondly i would like to adress this...<br /> "I have about 600k total, "<br /> <br /> I have a "caped dog" and "monster dogs" my bank account? 400K. thats it. <br /> <br /> <br /> " it's not fair for those who can afford those dogs and MWB's to win every trial simply because I don't have the cash or time to do the same. "<br /> <br /> Umm yes it is. If you dont want to spend the money on a dog, or the time to train it, then you shouldn't be complaining about the people who DO spend the time and money on it. <br /> <br /> "because I can't afford it, I shouldn't have an equal chance at winning a trial? Because there is no equal chance if option 1 goes into effect :/"<br /> <br /> You still have a chance at winning. LOOk at the trials, heck start a general discushion topic, get a group of people tougher to run there dogs with yours. Nothing is stopping you from doing thease things. People have other people they breed there dogs with all the time, so why not start a general discushion where you can enter your dog in the same trials? I'm sure people with upgraded accounts have dogs with low TP as well and would run trials just for you and the people in the group. Stop blaming it on the caped TP dogs when the real issue is the fact that you dont want to look to see whos in the trial. or look for other ways to run the trials. Its not the Caped dogs falt. <br /> <br /> Oh and one more thing, you can afford a caped dog, and more than likely a scollar collar from the cash shop so a training item too. its your choice if you dont choose to spend it.

01-25-2012 at 11:10 PM

<i>- There are no capped dogs available for sale at this time. (I did not check auctions)</i><br /> <br /> There are currently three up for sale and have been for the past few days, I know because two are mine and one has been sitting there for a while. One is only 50k.<br /> <br /> As for forcing capped dogs to run with capped dogs, I hate the idea. A fresh capped dog is always going to loose to older capped dogs because they have SLIGHTLY higher TP. It's incredibly unfair to put all that work, effort and training into a dog to have it constantly loose to other capped dogs that are older or had their TP bumped up with the use of soldier helmets. I wouldn't mind higher TP ranges, say 5k-cap. But strictly capped trials? I'd be hard pressed to quit the site if that came to be.<br /> <br /> Also wish people would refrain from calling capped dogs monsters. As the entire point of this site is to breed better, higher TP dogs I don't get why a dog that achived the all time goal concerning TP is a 'monster dog'. Just how I always take the term anyway.

01-25-2012 at 9:01 PM

Capped dogs, when maxed, will inevitably win every time... it's not fair for those who can afford those dogs and MWB's to win every trial simply because I don't have the cash or time to do the same. <br /> <br /> So, because I can't afford it, I shouldn't have an equal chance at winning a trial? Because there is no equal chance if option 1 goes into effect :/<br /> <br /> Also, for the sake of my interest I looked at prices.<br /> <br /> - There are no capped dogs available for sale at this time. (I did not check auctions) <br /> - The cheapest MWB is $25,000,000 or 100 bones.<br /> <br /> I have about 600k total, and I most certainly not spending $100 of my money for a <em>game</em> item. My decision, yes. <br /> <br /> My trial teams are in the Dogbert level and I trial them 1-2 times per day. Very little of my cash comes from them.<br /> <br />

01-25-2012 at 8:38 PM

Double post. x.x

01-25-2012 at 8:38 PM

<i>"The only purpose of trial teams is to ensure wins, which makes trials nothing more than a money mill. "</i><br><br>How much does a capped dog make per day, on average? How much does a trial team make per day, on average? <br><br> <i>"There's no sport in it and it's definitely not fair to the people who can't enter trials because a handful of players filled them all up."</i><br><br> It also isn't fair to let dogs constantly get stomped on and never allow lower dogs a chance of winning. Grand champions don't win in the ring every single time either. In a real competition, dogs of like ability are paired in the same levels are they not? <br><br>There is also no sport in entering a trial that has a bulk of low tp dogs just because you are gauranteed to win. That's as bad as the team trialing then. It guarantees a win, which isn't fair to anyone.<br><br>Just out of curiosity, how many people are team trialers and how many are owners of capped dogs? I see about a handful of both, and both have a right to play and have a chance at winning, in my opinion.<br><br><i>"" It cheapens the experience for all of the other players and devalues weeks, months, and years of hard work for established players."</i><br><br>Might I ask why my proposed method wouldn't work? It would assure the higher pointed dogs get better prizes so it wouldnt devalue time spent or anything anyone has bought.<br><br>If nothing else, at least a trial/sport based on drive and speed might be nice.<br><br><font size=1>Edit: HTML fail ;.;</font>

01-25-2012 at 7:34 PM

"Trial teams are very much needed at this point in time"<br /> <br /> Why? <br /> What makes trial teams absolutely necessary? The <i>only</i> purpose of trial teams is to ensure wins, which makes trials nothing more than a money mill. There's no sport in it and it's definitely not fair to the people who can't enter trials because a handful of players filled them all up. No, creating more trials is not a solution, but rather another way to make the problem worse. <br /> <br /> "And two 300 TP'd dogs will always lose against a maxed capped dog. So what would be the point in me even blowing my money on trialing?"<br /> <br /> This is the very nature of competition. I have more customs than I can handle and none of them are trial dogs because their TP is simply too low. It's the name of the game and that's fine--a 300 TP dog <i>isn't supposed to</i> stand a chance against a higher TP dog. This is why creating another game system which focused less on TP would be beneficial, but we're talking about trialing here. <br /> <br /> As for newbies trying to get a leg up in the game, I understand that. We all understand that. We were all there once. I do agree that the learning curve is too steep, but sticking high TP dogs with handicaps is not the solution to the problem. It cheapens the experience for all of the other players and devalues weeks, months, and years of hard work for established players. <br />